Illegal to carry cash on a plane

Old Hippie · #1 (**permalink**) 04-13-2009, 11:32 PM

It is now illegal to carry money on the plane

I've often carried as much as $9900 (always less than $10,000) when I go to Vegas, on a cruise, out of the country -- and especially if I'm going to have a lot of opportunity to gamble at the Black Jack tables. Hell., most of my life I've had more in my wallet than what this man was jacked around for! The above video shows exactly what kind of Jack-Boot government America is quickly becoming. The TSA is suppose to look out for suicide bombers -- and that's why you walk in front of them without shoes. I don't know of any suicide bombers that are going to take large sums of cash with them. They get their Virgins free -- and don't have to pay for hookers on the other side.

Philadelphia 1776 · #2 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 01:00 AM

Word for today....Schutzstaffel

TrannyMan · #3 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 07:35 AM

What a smart ass, they should have locked him up for a couple of days.

And it's a stupid questioning, all he had to say was that he was going to purchase a car, going on vacation, or tell the truth, "I got it for t-shirt sales over the weekend" ........like "where are you going with that cash?" is going to stop a terrorist attack.

Old Hippie · #4 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 08:49 AM

I disagree, $2500 isn't chit to be carrying. It is none of the TSA's business what anyone is doing with less than $10,000. What does carrying $2500 have anything to do with stopping a terrorist attack on the plane. What personal questions should they be allowed to ask that has nothing to do with their job. Should they ask your sexual orientation? Should they ask if a child traveling with you is your natural child or adopted? Should they ask why the lady traveling with you having the same address but different last name is not married to you? It is none of their business and not appropriate. If we keep rolling over to these abuses -- they will try even more. I applaud this guy for what he did. Do you feel it strange that you can't profile a black gansta at 2AM in Los Angeles, or a 19-40 year-old Arab flying on a one way ticket and no money -- but you can harass a white man for carrying $2500 on a plane?

Let's face it -- the TSA is an Affirmative Action job and a farce. They're quick to find your can of Right Guard or nail clippers -- but couldn't find a real weapon if it was right in front of them. Just because the black man that started the whole deal has never had $2500 in his wallet -- doesn't mean he or the government can stick their nose in your personal business. Every cruise I've been on I've carried at least twice that on-board for the casino. Every time I go to Vegas or New Orleans I carry at least twice that. When I go to Mexico -- it costs me $2500 a day just to rent a fishing boat and crew -- and I most likely spend that in titty bars during 7 days. I'm leaving for the Bahamas for my 30th anniversary in a week -- and will have at least three times that for the casinos. Most of the last 20 years I've had at least that amount on my person -- and it is not unusual or their business.

All of these little things add up. In just one day's discussions on this board we have Obama using the Department of Homeland Security classifying the Right Wing as a threat on Homeland Security, the guy who did the two Thomas Payne Ghost videos "Summoned" (as in you better show up -- not a request to spend the night in the Lincoln bedroom), and the negros at TSA pulling you off you flight because you have a measly $2500 on you. This is just one day's worth of Jack-Boot Gestapo tactics -- yet people get offended when comparing Obama to Hitler. Wake up people -- Jos. Stalin never acted this fast.

Old Hippie · #5 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 09:09 AM

Listen to the whole You Tube video -- at 6 minutes into the deal you will find that he was actually stopped because he had Ron Paul bumper stickers in his briefcase -- and Homeland Security in St. Louis sent out notifications that they suspect Ron Paul supporters as being part of a militia.

This is way out of control.

TrannyMan · #6 (**permalink**) 04-14-2009, 09:30 PM

While you made some good points it's all BS, all he had to do is say he was going to buy something. He could have walked off with no further questions. Instead he had to show his ass.

I have been asked before where I am going, I tell them and move on.

And it was $4700.00, which isn't a big deal, he just should have told them. I heard no where on the tape that he got questioned because he had Ron Paul stickers.

leftova3 · #7 (**permalink**) 04-26-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TrannyMan

While you made some good points it's all BS, all he had to do is say he was going to buy something. He could have walked off with no further questions. Instead he had to show his ass.

I have been asked before where I am going, I tell them and move on.

And it was $4700.00, which isn't a big deal, he just should have told them. I heard no where on the tape that he got questioned because he had Ron Paul stickers.

Though it may be true that it doesn't say on the tape that he got questioned because he had Ron Paul bumpers stickers but they don't say why he is being detained, and they do say "detained", other than him being suspicious. They do have outlines describing what is suspicious behavior and in the video they explain that being a Ron Paul supporter is suspicious. He said that he was clearly carrying Ron Paul stickers and flyers so it is sufficient to say that the men who detained him knew he was a Ron Paul supporter.

Now you say that he should have just told them what he was doing with that money and left. But...would he have just been allowed to leave? Remember what he said at 5:43 in the video about the email sent by law enforcement in Missouri that says that Ron Paul supporters are potential militia members? If their agenda says that these are potential terrorists then do you think they would have let him go if he said what he was doing with that money (since the money was made from a Ron Paul regional conference)? I don't they would have. I think it was in his best interest not to say that.

Maybe if he had lied to them, like saying he was going to buy something (something being a classic car or something, not like drugs or a weapon) but lying may have caused more harm. After all, we don't know if the agents knew already why he had the money, or if they were merely inquiring.

Also, lets remember if he is not legally required to answer a question, he should not do so. Any lawyer will tell you that. Anything he says can be used against him in the court of law.

If you give them an inch they'll take a mile.

Let's reflect on that for a moment because I feel that it applies appropriately to this situation. Why should we allow these men to encroach on our rights just because it feels easier to just roll over? I feel that organizations such as these, as history clearly dictates, push further and further and the more we give in the more they take.

Those are my 2 cents on the subject. I feel that it's good this is being exposed to the public.

Old Hippie · #8 (**permalink**) 04-26-2009, 08:42 AM

People now go to jail for lying to the police/FBI -- so I agree, don't answer any question that need not legally need to be asked. On the one hand I believe that we shouldn't handcuff law enforcement in trying to protect us from bad people -- on the other hand, it appears that Democrats use Government agencies as a tool to run Banana Republic style justice against their political enemies. This scares the Hell out of me -- but appartently not too many others -- until maybe it happens to them.

CIA, FBI, TSA, IRS, DHS -- Obama and the Democrats appear willing to use all of these agencies to harass former political administrations and the supported of their political enemies.

That said -- I don't appear to have made the TSA's list of Right Wing Radicals (for have serving in the military or running this and other political sites) yet. I carried over $6000 in cash (I bought even more back (but less than the $10,0000 limit) as I was up at the 3 visits to the casino) to the Bahamas last week. Customs didn't search my baggage and I breezed through Immigration on both sides. Coming into the States the two people ahead of us had to give finger prints and it took them about ten minutes each to get through. For us, they swiped the passport and 60 seconds later sent us on our way. We've had our passports for almost 30 years (renewed twice) so our profile must currently be an older couple that likes to travel together. There are a lot of stamps to Caribbean Countries (we've been to about 30 different ones), and a lot to Mexico for me as I use to Sport Fish for Marlin/Yuna/Dorado in Cabo San Lucas.

I also figured that having my hair down to my waist would get a baggage search -- as it sure had the trees in the Bahamas asking me if I wanted to buy weed, smoke, or toot.

Old Hippie · #9 (**permalink**) 04-26-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by leftova3

Though it may be true that it doesn't say on the tape that he got questioned because he had Ron Paul bumpers stickers but they don't say why he is being detained, and they do say "detained", other than him being suspicious. They do have outlines describing what is suspicious behavior and in the video they explain that being a Ron Paul supporter is suspicious. He said that he was clearly carrying Ron Paul stickers and flyers so it is sufficient to say that the men who detained him knew he was a Ron Paul supporter.

Now you say that he should have just told them what he was doing with that money and left. But...would he have just been allowed to leave? Remember what he said at 5:43 in the video about the email sent by law enforcement in Missouri that says that Ron Paul supporters are potential militia members? If their agenda says that these are potential terrorists then do you think they would have let him go if he said what he was doing with that money (since the money was made from a Ron Paul regional conference)? I don't they would have. I think it was in his best interest not to say that.

Maybe if he had lied to them, like saying he was going to buy something (something being a classic car or something, not like drugs or a weapon) but lying may have caused more harm. After all, we don't know if the agents knew already why he had the money, or if they were merely inquiring.

Also, lets remember if he is not legally required to answer a question, he should not do so. Any lawyer will tell you that. Anything he says can be used against him in the court of law.

If you give them an inch they'll take a mile.

Let's reflect on that for a moment because I feel that it applies appropriately to this situation. Why should we allow these men to encroach on our rights just because it feels easier to just roll over? I feel that organizations such as these, as history clearly dictates, push further and further and the more we give in the more they take.

Those are my 2 cents on the subject. I feel that it's good this is being exposed to the public.

Welcome aboard -- I hope we can count on you being a regular participant in our discussions.

TrannyMan · #10 (**permalink**) 04-26-2009, 11:58 AM

Tell you what, next time you get pulled over by a police officer for speeding or whatever, every time the officer asks you a question, ask him if you are required by law to answer that. See what that gets you.

It's still stupid to respond in a way that brings attention to yourself, which is what this person did. A lot of people with a badge have some sort of superiority complex going on. It's better just to leave them alone and move on.